We don’t say that, but that is the aim

Hansadutta das: So when Prabhupada came, they rented him a small room and I got the opportunity to spend…maybe it was five days with Prabhupada. It was just the room, and then it had a little side alcove where there was a sink and a place where you could cook something. So I slept under that sink and in that area. The first night I was so nervous I couldn’t sleep. About one in the morning I heard Prabhupada rustling and getting up, and he didn’t turn on the light or anything and he started chanting on his beads. So I wondered, “What should I do? Should I get up or pretend I’m sleeping?” I didn’t know what I should do so I didn’t do anything, I pretended I was sleeping. But the next day the same thing happened, I was so nervous I couldn’t sleep again. So when Prabhupada got up and started chanting, then I also made myself known. So Prabhupada, he turned on the light and he said, “Oh, you are up?” I said, “Well, Prabhupada, I’m so nervous I haven’t been able to sleep.” And he said, “Oh, that’s good, very good.” He said, “I think sleeping is a waste of time.” He said, “I don’t like to sleep.” He said, “And I don’t like my disciples to sleep.” Then he said, “Practically speaking, our aim is to make eating zero, sleeping zero, sex zero and defense zero. We don’t say that, but that is the aim.”
Reference: Remembrances by Yadubara Das- Folio Vedabase

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